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Why are you choosing the CBR500 over the Ninja 300?

Price? Power? Weight? Torque? Handling? Styling?

I am curious because I was very interested in the Ninja 300 until I came across the CBR500. I just find the CBR500 to be a great value. Good power at a low price along with Honda reliability.

To me the CBR500 is a better value over the Ninja 300. The CBR500 also has a decent amount more torque and likely won't need you to rev the engine so high to get it moving.
 

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First, Honda reliability, second my son in law is the GM of Powerhouse and I get a deal. The Kawa is 300cc and lighter weight. The 500r is approx 428lbs and 500cc, both 2 cylinders. The lighter weight of the Kawa is a pro if taken to the track but the heavier weight of the 500r with fairings is more appealable on the highway and unpredictable winds. Both look great. Both are fuel injected. The cbr has more of a narrow body. I wld think in the end it is a matter of choice. Torque and cc is close when factoring in weight ratio. I prefer a heavier wind resistant bike. I've done the light weight bike and it certainly has its pluses. However, on the highway riding with bigger cc bikes I had to wring the neck of my 250 constantly. Grew tiresome. For commuting it was great. For longer hauls it was a chore. I imagine the Kawa will be similar, more torquey but, for long regular long hauls will be tiresome. The CBR 500r will meet riders needs for bike size (big dudes) and the highway cruising with comfort.
 

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I was also considering the kawi ninja 300 at one point but was worried that i would be used to the 300cc And get bored real fast. The cbr500 is something in between the 250cc range and a supersport. The highway speeds with the weight of the cbr500 helps quite a bit. Rather than a ninja 300 struggling to keepup with traffic. I already find myself letti g bigger trucks by on my cbr250. So a 50cc upgrade is not much at all. The new honda chassis is more narrower and more ergonmic for the body. Although i wouldnt mind having the ninja 300 to track around with on the weekend.
 

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To be honest I just like the looks of the Honda CB500F. And the Ninja 300 isn't available in the US naked (yet).

But the more I dig into the 500 the more I realize that buying a new model bike has some downsides.

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1) Insurance - Alot of insurers don't have these motorcycles in their system, so they are giving you a quote on the bike based on the CC of the motor. The state farm quote I got for a 500F yesterday was double the quote for a Ninja 300 all other information was exactly the same. I'd expect these quotes to get adjusted after the bikes have been released to be more in line with the Ninja pricing...but your SOL if you buy before that stuffs been updated in the system.

2) Parts - There aren't alot of aftermarket parts that are going to be available off the bat. So if your looking to add on a specific mod or something you could be waiting for a while. And most electronic parts will probably take longer to come out if honda uses different connectors/placements than say on the 250 or 600.

3) Waiting - The dealer told me it was going to be 30-60 days before they got a single CB500 in stock and he didn't know when the next shipment would arrive. That would mean April is the earliest you'd be able to get one if your lucky enough to grab it before someone slaps down a deposit on it. Waiting longer would put you further into riding season.

4) Financing/Offers - Kawasaki's offering at least 3.99/apr on the 300, honda on the other hand isn't offering any financing or cash back offers like they have with the 250's and other bikes. Seems strange to me, maybe they'll update after they release the bikes.


From a practicality standpoint and my desire to get out and riding as soon as possible I'm leaning towards a Ninja 300 at the moment. The 500F is the bike I feel would suit me best, but we all have to make compromises at times.
 

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Honda is offering cash back on the 500. I received this offer in the mail couple weeks back. It's a $250.00 loyalty coupon for cbr250r owners towards the 500. This coupon can also be used with other offers/sales/promotions.

The release issues we are facing are the same as what many of us went through with the 250 in 2011. Powerhouse gets priority then the independent dealerships. It does pay to have placed a deposit to secure the bike. It's a pain but, if one is patient, the pay off will be worth it.
 

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Honda is offering cash back on the 500. I received this offer in the mail couple weeks back. It's a $250.00 loyalty coupon for cbr250r owners towards the 500. This coupon can also be used with other offers/sales/promotions.

The release issues we are facing are the same as what many of us went through with the 250 in 2011. Powerhouse gets priority then the independent dealerships. It does pay to have placed a deposit to secure the bike. It's a pain but, if one is patient, the pay off will be worth it.

Lol makes me wish I had a 250. Oh well, if honda wants a new LOYAL customer they can send me some mail too ;)
 

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Thats great Ive never bought a honda motorcycle brand new. So i guess this wont be applying to me. but only after this purchase will i be in the loyal customer category. It;s strange how they dont have any incentives on the CBR500. It would help bring in more sales no.
 

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To be honest I just like the looks of the Honda CB500F. And the Ninja 300 isn't available in the US naked (yet).

But the more I dig into the 500 the more I realize that buying a new model bike has some downsides.

Like:

1) Insurance - Alot of insurers don't have these motorcycles in their system, so they are giving you a quote on the bike based on the CC of the motor. The state farm quote I got for a 500F yesterday was double the quote for a Ninja 300 all other information was exactly the same. I'd expect these quotes to get adjusted after the bikes have been released to be more in line with the Ninja pricing...but your SOL if you buy before that stuffs been updated in the system.

2) Parts - There aren't alot of aftermarket parts that are going to be available off the bat. So if your looking to add on a specific mod or something you could be waiting for a while. And most electronic parts will probably take longer to come out if honda uses different connectors/placements than say on the 250 or 600.

3) Waiting - The dealer told me it was going to be 30-60 days before they got a single CB500 in stock and he didn't know when the next shipment would arrive. That would mean April is the earliest you'd be able to get one if your lucky enough to grab it before someone slaps down a deposit on it. Waiting longer would put you further into riding season.

4) Financing/Offers - Kawasaki's offering at least 3.99/apr on the 300, honda on the other hand isn't offering any financing or cash back offers like they have with the 250's and other bikes. Seems strange to me, maybe they'll update after they release the bikes.


From a practicality standpoint and my desire to get out and riding as soon as possible I'm leaning towards a Ninja 300 at the moment. The 500F is the bike I feel would suit me best, but we all have to make compromises at times.
nothing wrong with that. The ninja 300 is a great motorcycle.

check out this forum
Kawasaki Ninja 300 Forums
 

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More power, bigger bike feel, good for touring, cool design, better tires and many more.
And in thailand, we get only 250 cc version of the new model kawa ninja - no slipper clutch and abs -unfortunately and price difference is around 1200 usd. Cbr500r is a great bargain in thailand.
And dont forget, there is no substitute for displacement.
 

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I am going with the CBR because I think it will be solid commuter bike. I have a 45 mile commute which is all highways. My first bike was a Ninja 650R and my second bike was a GS500F. I liked both bikes, but hated the fact that the GS was carbureted. It was a pain to start on cold days especially after sitting eight hours in the cold. The Ninja 650R was solid all around, but looking for a cheaper option since I will be riding year round including in rain. I like the looks of the Ninja 300 and have no beef with Kawasaki, but I think the extra 200 ccs give the Honda the advantage. The challenge I have with buying another Ninja 650R is the price is not that far from a super sport bike. In other words I would add the extra money and get a super sport before buying a new 650R. Since my current need is a commuter bike there is no need for the power of a super sport bike.
 

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Coming from a 250cc I find it better if i move on a something with more than just a 50cc upgrade. I have gotten use to the cbr250 riding everyday to work and occasional long trips though tight and windy roads. I want something with just a bit more horsepower and little more wight. Yes i said it! When I riding on the freeways I feel as if I dont have enough weight to keep the momentum going to move faster. Its pretty light and i have to let cars past.
 

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There is no comparison. At 6'2" I am comfortable on the Honda. Also, Kawas don't appear to be as well built. Take the Versys for example - it's too plasticky and lacks the high level of finish that the Honda has.
 

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I own a CBR250 and have 6k on it. It really does need a little bit more than you probably have the perfect do it all bike. I think the bike just needs another 100cc and it might be the last upgrade of a bike most people need unless you really go long distances. For me the low weight in Seattle traffic is a hugh plus along with its nimble size. I feel for most people a Ninja 300 that has a lot left after 80 mph should be plenty unless you dont like to have your bike rev high all the time.
 

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I want more pull at 100kph for over taking and up through the hills. Power to weight makes less of an important difference then: it comes down to raw HP. The higher torque and lower reviving required on the 500 to develop its HP are also appealing. So the 500 it is :)

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Good power, but not supersport power which I wouldn't want for the street anyway. Moved up from an '06 Ninja 250r, so I wanted a tangible increase in power, but not like an additional 100HP to deal with all the time. Good, manageable horsepower and torque with very ample acceleration for city and highway speeds. Torque available at lower RPMs than the Ninja 300 and more at the higher end. More comfortable to ride around town in 5th/6th gear for those long, ultra-eco cruising roads.

Styling is (subjective) cleaner and a bit more tidy than the Ninja 300. Not that I think the Ninja 300 looks bad, its definitely a solid design, I just prefer the CBR500R looks. Slightly longer, more angular tail. Less sharp curves, smoother, cleaner bodywork. Rear brake light and tail reflectors better integrated and hidden in the body. Fit and finish feels and overall looks superior.

If we're comparing the Ninja 300 ABS to CBR500R ABS, price differential of 1,000 dollars. I find the value of the CBR500R to be stronger consider the additional horsepower and torque you're getting from the 471cc engine, while still getting very comparable gas mileage. To me, feels like a minimal difference in price for a substantially lot more bike. Bigger, but not supersport big and still practical for daily riding.
 

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Good power, but not supersport power which I wouldn't want for the street anyway. Moved up from an '06 Ninja 250r, so I wanted a tangible increase in power, but not like an additional 100HP to deal with all the time. Good, manageable horsepower and torque with very ample acceleration for city and highway speeds. Torque available at lower RPMs than the Ninja 300 and more at the higher end. More comfortable to ride around town in 5th/6th gear for those long, ultra-eco cruising roads.

Styling is (subjective) cleaner and a bit more tidy than the Ninja 300. Not that I think the Ninja 300 looks bad, its definitely a solid design, I just prefer the CBR500R looks. Slightly longer, more angular tail. Less sharp curves, smoother, cleaner bodywork. Rear brake light and tail reflectors better integrated and hidden in the body. Fit and finish feels and overall looks superior.

If we're comparing the Ninja 300 ABS to CBR500R ABS, price differential of 1,000 dollars. I find the value of the CBR500R to be stronger consider the additional horsepower and torque you're getting from the 471cc engine, while still getting very comparable gas mileage. To me, feels like a minimal difference in price for a substantially lot more bike. Bigger, but not supersport big and still practical for daily riding
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Total agree with you here, looks are totally subjective, but you can't argue that for an extra $1000 you're getting a lot more bike in my opinion.
 

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Total agree with you here, looks are totally subjective, but you can't argue that for an extra $1000 you're getting a lot more bike in my opinion.
The CBR 500 ABS is actually the equivalent of $400 cheaper compared to the Ninja 300 ABS where I live so it makes even more sense to get the CBR 500. More bike for less money. :)
 

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The CBR 500 ABS is actually the equivalent of $400 cheaper compared to the Ninja 300 ABS where I live so it makes even more sense to get the CBR 500. More bike for less money. :)
Wow, that's crazy that people would even consider the Ninja 300 ABS if that's the case.
 
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